Guest Episodes
Reverend PM Smith Preaches to the Choir: Serge and Clarke
Reverend P.M. Smith, Pastor of the Huber Memorial Church in Baltimore City is this week’s guest on Black and White and Thin Blue Lines. Pastor Smith brings an unmatched focus on crime in Baltimore. He is a Baltimore born and raised former criminal defense attorney and now the Pastor of Christian community. If you watch…
Read MoreThe Death of Tyre Nichols in Memphis
On January 7, 2023, the Memphis Police Department’s Scorpion Unit stopped and caused serious physical injury to 29-year-old Tyre Nichols. Mr. Nichols died in a hospital three days later. Five officers were fired on January 20, 2023. The same five officers — Tadarrius Bean, Demetrius Haley, Emmitt Martin III, Desmond Mills, Jr., and Justin Smith…
Read MoreAttorney Sam Nalli on Defending a Juvenile Charged with First-Degree Murder
The legal profession is filled with high-extroversion, low-content self-promoters, more interested in lining their pockets than achieving justice for their clients. And then, there is Sam Nalli. Sam tells the listeners about his background and interest in the law, and takes us behind the scenes in the defense of a 17-year-old child charged as an…
Read MoreJudge Hammerman Imposes a 70 Year Trial Penalty — The Gary Baynor Case
In the last episode, Serge and Clarke discussed the idea of a trial penalty. A trial penalty occurs when an accused citizen rejects a plea offer, goes to trial, and is convicted but receives a sentence grossly disproportionate to the plea offer. In this episode, Serge and Clarke interview Gary Baynor about an incredible story…
Read MorePolice Leader Osborne “Moe” Robinson on Police Leadership & Firearms Training
Two for the price of one in this episode. Serge and Clarke contacted Moe Robinson because he teaches firearms law and skills to applicants for Maryland’s carry permits. But he first shared his views on police leadership; they are so good we made the episode about both things: police leadership and firearms training for carrying…
Read MoreDr. Keith Hannan, Ph.D. on Maryland’s Juvenile Justice Flaws & His Solution
In Maryland, most of the rehabilitation of adjudicated delinquent offenders is the domain of correctional personnel. Dr. Keith Hannon, Ph.D., has had a 30-year career as a licensed psychologist with extensive experience in the Maryland juvenile justice system. Dr. Hannan challenges the efficacy of the Maryland system, compares it to the District of Columbia juvenile…
Read MoreJust a Podcast about Another Cop Changing the World One Soul at a Time
This podcast is the story of “Randy” Morton. Randy grew up in West Baltimore where a mentor steered him into Boy Scouts. Randy committed and became an Eagle Scout. After high school, he joined the military. After the military, he worked as a “drill sergeant” with the North American Family Institute which held a contract…
Read MoreAn old school police lieutenant talks Baltimore, O’Malley, police commissioners…
BPD Police Lieutenant Wayne Wilson takes us back to old school policing in Baltimore. Wilson shares his wisdom about the O’Malley years, the best Baltimore Police Commissioner in the last 50 years, the police response to the Uvalde school shooting, and how the failure of the Baltimore School System is related to the city’s homicide…
Read MoreWe’re Talking SWAT with a City Swat Officer
Have you ever wondered why certain search warrants are served by SWAT teams and whether you are safer — or in great danger — when a SWAT team arrives? This episode is a very interesting discussion with a SWAT officer in a “major city on the East coast of the United States.” Serge and Clarke…
Read MoreSave Our Young—The life and work of a cop.
The lives of so many Baltimore children are beset by the trauma of violence. In this podcast, Serge and Clarke talk to a man whose father was shot in the head in Baltimore when the man was in the second grade. He remembers being driven to Shock Trauma in a police car, where his father…
Read MoreLenny Stamm and Michael Stamm v MSP Forensic Science Division
Black and White and Thin Blue Lines introduces our listeners to men and women who fight the eternal battle for justice, or those who have fought it, or those who aspire to fight it. In our first episode of Season 2, we invite you to get to know the father/son team of lawyers, Lenny Stamm…
Read MoreKemp Freund Weighs In on School Resource Officers
As communities struggle with increasing violence, school boards debate the utility of having police officers assigned to public schools. Two leading Democrat Presidents — Clinton and Obama — urged Congress to fund SROs (School Resource Officers) nationwide. Yet, the United States Department of Justice and the Department of Education have issued reports that SROs discipline…
Read MoreBlack History Month: A Living History Interview with the Hon. F. L. Antonin, Ret. (Part 2)
In honor of Black History Month, Serge and Clarke interview the third African American woman appointed to the Superior Court of New Jersey. Serge was able to secure this interview because Frances Lawrence Antonin, who helped break barriers for African American female attorneys, especially in New Jersey, is his mother. Clarke recommends this interview for…
Read MoreExpert James (“Jim”) Lilley on the Use of the Choke Hold
Our guest in this episode is Sgt. James Lilley, Howard County Police Department, ret. James (‘Jim”) Lilley is a nationally renowned expert in police tactics, the creator of a police training series on handgun retention by police, and the author of fiction and non-fiction books. He is a former marine and a lifetime student of…
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